Christ did more than just suffer
Tuesday, July 14, 2009
Blogging mega-star Halden has posted a long quotation from an article by James Alison that Halden designates as excellent. (It’s a marvel to me that theology bloggers so seldom read something that falls short of complete excellence.) Here is a relevant portion:
And this for me is the central point in any discussion about monotheism and idolatry: what is the criterion by which we can learn the difference between idolatry and worship? The answer which the Catholic faith gives me is this: the reason why it is possible to be non-idolatrous is because God has given us God’s own criterion for what it looks like to be non-idolatrous. And that criterion, given that God has no parts or divisions, and in every movement towards us is One, is also God. The criterion took the form of a lived-out fully human life story, that of Jesus, whose meaning was the reverse of all the human criteria that are usually brought into play in such stories. God gave, as God’s own criterion for God’s own power, not the power of Emperors, legislators or Priests, but the ability to occupy the space of losing, curse, shame and death without being run by them, in such a way that that space and the whole anthropological structure of human existence that depends on it, is able to be relativised. Idolatry is seen to be an involvement in the human cultural reality of death from which God longs for us to be free.
In the comments to the post, I react with the annoyance that people have come to expect from me:
Why the “reverse”? Why not say that it was different from everyday standards, yet recognizably good nonetheless? Why this fetishizing of reversal for its own sake? It leads you to miss things — like the joyfulness of Christ’s life. He didn’t submit to the cross because that would really fuck with our preconceptions. Right? God isn’t just willfully trying to screw with us because he would be mad if our expectations were too accurate, right? Seriously. It’s perverse, the way so many Christians fetishize Christ’s suffering as though it’s the key to everything.
I’d like to expand on these remarks here, at some length. I am perfectly happy to say that Christ is against “the power of Emperors, legislators or Priests.” If I didn’t think he was, then I wouldn’t identify at all with Christianity. What I object to is the supposed logical consequence, namely that Christ’s true power is “the ability to occupy the space of losing, curse, shame and death without being run by them.” Why is it that God appears to be so bound by the expectations precisely of the Powers? Why does rejecting their claims amount to “losing, curse, shame, and death” and only that?
Look at things from the perspective of the oppressed. To them, is “the power of Emperors, legistlators, or Priests” a self-evidently desirable and good thing? Sure, it’s better to be powerless than not if you’re in the current system, but once you see an alternative to that entire structure in Christ, those power positions don’t seem very appealling. No one is going to follow Christ if he’s saying, “Just suffer for its own sake, because I’m God and I’m here to mess with your shit!” No — they follow Christ because of the joyfulness of his life, because of the unexpected abundance he brings along with him.
His life is recognizably good and appealling, and if you’re oppressed by the structure rather than benefiting from it, you can see that clearly. If you’re benefiting from it, he looks like a total nihilist who will destroy everything — and so with much regret and hemming and hawing, you must unfortunately put him to death. But again, I think it’s perverse to claim that this was the goal. Christ’s willingness to face death — though please note, he doesn’t do so stoically or nobly, he’s crying out in honest agony — is absolutely crucial to what he’s doing, because it shows that he absolutely refuses the blackmail of the earthly Powers and because it subsequently empowers his followers to refuse that same blackmail.
The alternative he’s offering isn’t to accept suffering instead of power — it’s to reject that dyad altogether and live with one another in a way that is not determined by that dyad. What he’s offering is something that is perhaps unexpected and yet still recognizable, something we didn’t realize we were hoping for. What he’s not offering is a simple reversal of the given for its own sake that we’re supposed to embrace because it shows how awesomely transcendent God is. I’m not a huge fan of transcendence, but this position doesn’t even give us real transcendence: God’s actions are still being determined by the Powers, only negatively.
In fact, I wonder if transcendence can ever really get us past this point to a genuine independence, where God’s actions are first of all independent and good and then you notice, “Ah yes, the world is in thrall to these Powers — I guess we’d better figure out a way to deal with that, too.” I believe that the patristic authors often do the latter rather than the former, particularly Irenaeus, and it makes sense in that context that he believes the Incarnation would’ve happened regardless of whether we’d sinned — and I would add that Irenaeus does not seem to me to embrace a doctrine of transcendence, or certainly not of the kind we are accustomed to.
The doctrine of transcendence that is bandied about most often just gives us a kind of fun-house mirror on the world: suffering is good, turns out! But no, it’s not good. It’s unavoiable and can sometimes form part of a larger strategy of resistence, but in itself, it’s bad. To claim otherwise is stupid and morally bankrupt, whether you’re a theologian writing an article or a transcendent God with a petty fixation on fucking with people’s shit.
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 at 3:05 pm
I’m curious how’d you handle a verse like Hebrews 2:10:
“For it was fitting for Him, for whom are all things and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons to glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.” (NKJV)
I’m really sympathetic to what you are saying here, but there are still some verses in the NT that are pretty bizarre. I really cannot claim to have any idea what the above verse means.
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 at 3:17 pm
You could say that it proves the extent of his commitment in the face of the Powers. I haven’t looked back at the full context, though — I’ll admit Hebrews would be a tough nut to crack from this perspective.
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Yeah… the weird thing for me is it being “fitting” for God to “make Christ perfect through suffering.” I can’t even parse the sentence, much less try to figure out the soteriological/ontological implications of it.
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 at 3:26 pm
I think honest befuddlement is too rarely seen in biblical interpretation — I wish, for example, that someone would say, “Man, I just don’t know what Paul is talking about in Romans 1:26-27. It kind of sounds like homosexuality? But this is a really weirdly worded and constructed sentence.”
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 at 3:31 pm
I realize more and more that “honest befuddlement” is one of the few authentic reactions I am capable of having with most of the Bible. I do still think it’s awesome, though.
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Just curious – the Bible or your authentic reaction?
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 at 3:50 pm
I meant the Bible, although honest befuddlement can be pretty liberating.
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 at 3:58 pm
I often used to think I had a moral failing or just general ontological lameness because I could never really get into reading the Bible. I wouldn’t even flatter myself and call it befuddlement; it was simply boredom. I guess it is why I’ll never be a real theologian.
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 at 4:01 pm
It will probably surprise no one that a big part of my fascination with the Bible came from how weird it was, and secondarily, from the fact that you could always find something that would contradict the narrow-minded assholes who thought they owned the thing.
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Yup. I think almost all atonement theology, as you well know, is stuck here in concentrating on the suffering of the cross, and therefore, even while being opposed to suffering, validating suffering as the means to the end of suffering. Girard’s thought, which many people including James Alison have attempted to use to produce a non-violent atonement end in this weird aporia where even though, say, the cross reveals the horrifying structures of suffering caused by mimetic violence and rejects them, just the same as substitutionary atonement, it requires suffering to do so. The cross without any other element of Jesus’ life having almost any meaning whatsoever, including the resurrection, which reveals the cross and its suffering as a nothing, is the mark of so much theology.
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 at 4:59 pm
I agree with what you’ve identified as a theological problem, here, at least in the sense that such a notion of idolatry practically gives the Powers a normative conceptual status, and interprets God’s revelation in Christ as a kind of negative image through the lens of their predominance.
I often wonder if it isn’t the lack of a theological understanding of the powers as ‘created’ entities that leads to the theological practice of moving backwards, as it were, beginning with the powers in their present cultural forms and only then arriving a notion of God’s liberation, as freedom from “that”.
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 at 5:01 pm
PS I owe almost of the above thought to Stu Jesson from our office, who has written a stunning piece on atonement stuff and forgiveness.
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Feel free to throw me a “Donny, you’re out of your element.” but it seems to me that your argument stems from a prima facie understanding that suffering is bad. I would be curious to see you build an argument from the NT that vindicates your axiom.
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 at 8:26 pm
That’s an awful lot of ranting to be hung on the word “reverse.” Because other than that, at least in the quote as given, I see no reason for thinking that Halden is saying that Jesus means suffering is something like part of the ontological structure of the universe. Just says Jesus is able to occupy the place of suffering without being run by it, which I would think perfectly amenable to what you are arguing.
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 at 10:04 pm
It gets to the point where I’m not really talking about the quote anymore and don’t care about the quote, actually. So fine.
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 at 11:15 pm
I’m smelling what you’re cooking, broseph.
Wednesday, July 15, 2009 at 5:25 am
What’s wrong with transcendence?
Wednesday, July 15, 2009 at 6:32 am
What’s right with?!
Wednesday, July 15, 2009 at 6:55 am
Maybe you could start by saying what you mean by the term?
Wednesday, July 15, 2009 at 7:09 am
Strange, I just finished reading that James Alison article, then idly clicked over to AUFS and found this. And bizarrely, I’m just trying to write something about this kind of question at the moment, or would be, if I weren’t typing this.
I think that what Alison is saying (generally) is actually quite similar to your comment about not being determined by the dyad, but living free of it altogether – i.e., in Girardian terms, Jesus occupies the place of the victim not so that we can all see how great it is to be a victim, but so that we can learn how to stop the whole business of creating victims.
But I’m interested in your comments about the possibility of somehow attaining a view of things where we see what is good entirely independently of ‘the powers’, and, in the perspective you’re criticising, of God’s actions being ’still determined by the Powers’. I wonder how you can avoid this, if you want to talk at all about the cross as somehow revelatory. How can God’s actions not be, in some way, determined by the Powers, and still be actions at all, since the Powers are real, and determine the world?
Put differently, I guess the point is that if it is true that our evaluations are deeply governed in some way by earthly powers, then there is a perspective from which true wealth, life, etc, will appear to be simple, unappealing reversal. And if the Christian message is some kind of attempt to challenge this, then won’t there always be a uneasy mixture of straightforward scandal/reversal, etc, and appeal to an instinctive sense of goodness, ’something unexpected but recognisable’?
Wednesday, July 15, 2009 at 8:51 am
Stephen, If suffering was such a good thing, then why would Jesus go around healing people? Why would Paul be organizing a collection to feed the poor of Jerusalem? I didn’t say that suffering couldn’t serve a higher purpose, just that suffering isn’t the end goal. If it were the end goal, then Jesus wouldn’t be walking around depriving people of their awesome suffering by healing them.
Wednesday, July 15, 2009 at 8:54 am
Stu, Some people’s evaluations are more deeply governed by the Powers than others — Jesus most directly approached those on the low end of the scale. You’re deeply shaped by something when you are acting as its agent and are benefiting very clearly from it. You’re more shallowly shaped when your relationship to it is mainly governed by coersion and fear.